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that the majority of americans, the majority of gun owners, the overall majority of nra members agree on sensible gun laws that will make a dramatic difference. 74% of nra members agree with most of us that if you have a criminal conviction, that criminals should not be able to buy guns. and even at higher levels, when you think about the reality, that if you are a suspected terrorist in america, you can go to the secondary gun market and buy a weapon and conduct the kind of terrorism we saw in mumbai which was done with automatic and semi-automatic weapons. this is the call of our country. to do what the overall majority thinks is right. one out of every two women murdered with a gun are murdered by an intimate, by someone that they know well. that's why on the federal register that they do not allow people who are domestic violence perpetrators to buy guns. but that i have can still buy guns, a domestic violence perpetrator can buy a gun on the secondary market. the percentage of women murdered has gone down 40%. it makes a difference. we can save lives if we just do what we all agr
that the majority of americans, the majority of gun owners, the overall majority of nra members agree on sensible gun laws that will make a dramatic difference. 74% of nra members agree with most of us that if you have a criminal conviction, that criminals should not be able to buy guns. and even at higher levels, when you think about the reality, that if you are a suspected terrorist in america, you can go to the secondary gun market and buy a weapon and conduct the kind of terrorism we saw in...
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biden his "f" rating from the nra. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the group will face its critics with a press conference on friday. and last night on nra news online, host jenny simone gave a hint of their response. criticizing renewed support for a ban on assault weapons. >> more gun laws are not the answer. and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the answer, more guns. everywhere. >> good advice for senator feinstein and some of those anti-gunners on the hill to listen to some of these survivors. at the school. these gun-free zones are not the answer. people are left as sitting ducks. adam lanza knew he was going to be able to do what he wanted to do. >> for some, too many guns are never, ever enough. let's get right to our panel now. with me in new york is richard wolffe who's the v.p. and executive editor on msnbc.com and ari melber. there was almost the acknowledgment that this wild use of assau
biden his "f" rating from the nra. the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the group will face its critics with a press conference on friday. and last night on nra news online, host jenny simone gave a hint of their response. criticizing renewed support for a ban on assault weapons. >> more gun laws are not the answer. and what we need to do is stop making schools magnets for mass murderers like adam lanza. >> the...
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. >> and in washington, the nra breaks it's silence. the kudlow report starts now. >> all right let's go to john harwitt first in dc. i think i agree with what you were saying first. >>> he moved to plan b and the hope that further negotiations could produce progress. >> our plan b would protect american taxpayers who make $1 million or less and have their current rates extended. i continue to have hope. that would reduce spending as well as revenues on the table. >> but of course the democrats in the senate. didn't see plan b as a step forward. harry reid came out and said, john boehner is walking away from the nenegotiations. >> every time we get down to something from the long-term financial think for this country. they do the charlie brown thing, they jerk the ball away. and this is what is going on. >> the posturing conceals the process that we are not aware of. but i talked to a budget aid that said, he thinks things are getting worse in terms for prospects of a deal. >> by the way, my contacts have said the same thing. you thank
. >> and in washington, the nra breaks it's silence. the kudlow report starts now. >> all right let's go to john harwitt first in dc. i think i agree with what you were saying first. >>> he moved to plan b and the hope that further negotiations could produce progress. >> our plan b would protect american taxpayers who make $1 million or less and have their current rates extended. i continue to have hope. that would reduce spending as well as revenues on the table....
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didn't come from the nra. what value does it have to have an armed police officer, a 50-year-old guy, maybe an ex-police officer, retired police officer, standing somewhere near the lobby of the main door of a high school in philly. would it have any value? >> well, here's the deal, chris. in many instances, as we saw in newtown, sercertainly, the pers doesn't always come in the front door. and while in very specific situations, in certain schools, whether it's officers patrolling nearby or as a part of their regular duties coming into schools, this is not really a serious idea. the issue is less guns. and certainly, less semi-automatic weapons, rifles of this type. the issue is about the type of weapons that should be accessible and available to civilians. and that no one has made any legitimate argument or case as to why military-style, conver d ed weapons, i'm not going to go through the splitting hairs argument about it's not really that, it's been converted to something else. it's a semi-automatic weapon
didn't come from the nra. what value does it have to have an armed police officer, a 50-year-old guy, maybe an ex-police officer, retired police officer, standing somewhere near the lobby of the main door of a high school in philly. would it have any value? >> well, here's the deal, chris. in many instances, as we saw in newtown, sercertainly, the pers doesn't always come in the front door. and while in very specific situations, in certain schools, whether it's officers patrolling nearby...
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i think the nra argument seems to be gun control isn't perfect. won't stop all crime so let's not have any gun control but if you applied that to anything else, you substitute gun for anything else, like drugs, for example, nobody would say, drug laws are imperfect. so let's not have any laws against drugs. the idea you can't create a perfect law so criminals get access and make it easy for them doesn't make sense. the point of gun control is to make it more difficult to get the weapons. why reason earth would we make it easier for them? >> no perfect answers for this and probably continue to debate this in the new year. my thanks to you all three. lynn, keith and alice, i appreciate all of your time. >> thank you. >>> next, a not so merry cliff-mas for retailers or wall street. how the stalled negotiations are already impacting this economy. >>> and a big question to you, are you optimistic that congress can reach a post-christmas fiscal cliff deal? tweet me. find me on facebook. people really love snapshot from progressive, but don't just listen
i think the nra argument seems to be gun control isn't perfect. won't stop all crime so let's not have any gun control but if you applied that to anything else, you substitute gun for anything else, like drugs, for example, nobody would say, drug laws are imperfect. so let's not have any laws against drugs. the idea you can't create a perfect law so criminals get access and make it easy for them doesn't make sense. the point of gun control is to make it more difficult to get the weapons. why...
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the nra pledging money and resources to create what it calls a national safety shield program. at the same time, blasting media, it says, from profiting from a culture of violence. michelle? >> what kind of reaction is he getting to the suggestion that every school in america have an armed police officer? are we hearing anybody from capitol hill or advocacy groups for anybody that will agree or disagree? >> from the gun control advocacy groups, obviously outrage, blistering attacks on what la pierre has said. but again strange silence we have had all week specifically from the republican leadership on, you know, it's what's next as far as getting in the whole dialogue of sensible gun controls and other aspects of really the whole problem that we all agree needs to be reexamined. >> thank you, hampton. sue? >> you got it. >> michelle, as you know, we are awaiting president obama's news conference. he is expected to nominate senator john kerry as next secretary of state. well take that live when it does occur. plus, with the fiscal cliff follies upon us, how do you protect your p
the nra pledging money and resources to create what it calls a national safety shield program. at the same time, blasting media, it says, from profiting from a culture of violence. michelle? >> what kind of reaction is he getting to the suggestion that every school in america have an armed police officer? are we hearing anybody from capitol hill or advocacy groups for anybody that will agree or disagree? >> from the gun control advocacy groups, obviously outrage, blistering attacks...
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. >> both support and outrage continue to swirl across the country, two days after the nra released its statement on the school shooting and gun control debate. regardless of which side of the debate you're on, the end goal is to end gun violence. now, this weekend in columbia heights, a crowd gathered for a vigil aimed at doing just that. fox 5's lauren dimarco was there and has this report. >> reporter: the vigil in columbia heights and march to a nearby church were held in honor of the 20 children and six school staff members killed in newtown, connecticut last week. local school teacher trish collard and her husband tim were among those who gathered to call more attention to gun violence. >> sometimes tragic things can lead to some momentus things. >> reporter: president obama appointed vice president joe biden to head the administration response to the shooting, calling for swift action and a ban on the sale of assault weapon and high capacity ammunition magazines. but the demonstrators are gathering in part as response to this statement from the nra. >> with all the money in the f
. >> both support and outrage continue to swirl across the country, two days after the nra released its statement on the school shooting and gun control debate. regardless of which side of the debate you're on, the end goal is to end gun violence. now, this weekend in columbia heights, a crowd gathered for a vigil aimed at doing just that. fox 5's lauren dimarco was there and has this report. >> reporter: the vigil in columbia heights and march to a nearby church were held in honor...
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if you stop this from ever happening again. >> it is a problem for the nra. the debate about the guns used in this shooting, don't fit the definition of the kinds of guns we talk about banning. there comes a point in the public discussion that is so emotional where facts take a back seat and i don't know how the nra deals with that. that is why i say i am not sure talking now as the voice of the industry will get you anywhere. >> they could say things like the president has sent up this task force to look into it. >> a task force? the media won't said that. stuart: the president proposed this and set it up. >> when i say we want to be part of the solution, not give an answer but we want to work with the vice president and the president to come of with the solution. stuart: did charles: 1 to look like they're negotiating? we want to go -- they come out and say we're going to reverse ourselves on certain things and we do agree a certain type of weapon should be -- >> is premature. [talking over each other] >> don't blame them of the show you are willing to deal
if you stop this from ever happening again. >> it is a problem for the nra. the debate about the guns used in this shooting, don't fit the definition of the kinds of guns we talk about banning. there comes a point in the public discussion that is so emotional where facts take a back seat and i don't know how the nra deals with that. that is why i say i am not sure talking now as the voice of the industry will get you anywhere. >> they could say things like the president has sent up...
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the nra is soon going to start to push back. you are going to see a major news conference with the president of the organization wane lap peer and others on friday in washington. >> let me stop threw. that's ridiculous. nobody is going to see it? >> nobody is working on friday. it's a friday before christmas. not going to get any play. nobody is going to be watching over the weekend. why not. >> that's just one part of it, bill. you are going to see the full weight of this organization and four million members brought to baier in the legislative battles that carl cammeron just discussing. >> they say they are unwilling to compromise. >> i think you will find, bill, that the nra is not going to let an assault weapons ban being reinstated without a fight and draw a particular red line around senator feinstein's proposal to limit the amount of ammunition be loaded into semiautomatic weapons. >> bill: that will be interesting. >> one other thing real quick, biffle is that the manipulate membership nra has surged since newtown accord
the nra is soon going to start to push back. you are going to see a major news conference with the president of the organization wane lap peer and others on friday in washington. >> let me stop threw. that's ridiculous. nobody is going to see it? >> nobody is working on friday. it's a friday before christmas. not going to get any play. nobody is going to be watching over the weekend. why not. >> that's just one part of it, bill. you are going to see the full weight of this...
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when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian. >> yes. >> julian? >> yes. particularly if there is a concerted movement over many months. >> it was a yes or no. it was just a yes or no. >> but there's a key proviseo. there. every time we've done this, the nra counts on the clock. that the public will shift attention over time. the key here is the public todays focused. but that's the key contingency. >> i think the sad reality of the christmas eve incident is that we'll continue to see gun violence. sadly there will continue to be examples that we can point to to try to keep the pressure on.
when you see some say the nra cannot be saved. there is no messaging that will work for them at this point. the politics are against them. that's where they become desperate just like the tobacco lobbyists did when they were up against it. in the end the politics is not going to work for them on this track. and they're going to change. >> so we've -- between newtown and christmas eve, chances that we are going to get meaningful gun control yes or no, richard you first and then you julian....
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connecticut attorney general said the nra missed an opportunity here. >> the nra statement is sadly inadquate calling for more guns and rejecting real action. at a defoining moment for our nation and demanding courageous leadership the nra decline to step forward as a constructive parter. >> that is from the forevermore attorney general and now senator from connecticut. >> we are looking for your opinions. send on twitter at rick lev anthal and we'll share with your viewers. >> rick, thank you very much. >> egyptians voting in the second and final phase of islamic backed constitution that divided that nation. with only hours left to go, a political surprise . vice-president manew mickey resigned. he said it was due to president mursi's policy. results are expected tonight or tomorrow. >> clearly mistakes were made. we learned about the mistakes leading toupt attacks and the report makes that clear . one of the most candid and important observation was the failure by certain leaders to see the forest through the trees. there were clear warning signs that the security situation in libya had det
connecticut attorney general said the nra missed an opportunity here. >> the nra statement is sadly inadquate calling for more guns and rejecting real action. at a defoining moment for our nation and demanding courageous leadership the nra decline to step forward as a constructive parter. >> that is from the forevermore attorney general and now senator from connecticut. >> we are looking for your opinions. send on twitter at rick lev anthal and we'll share with your viewers....
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. >> the nra has made a statement today. the key part saying they're prepared to make meaningful contributions to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> don't hold your breath. >> jeffrey, tell me this annoying -- what did he call me, a bucolic brit. as someone who went through, very similar, the children same age killed. which means we only get 35 gun letters a year. it's the same in australia. many european companies have a similar rate. we just don't get how the nr are a is apparently so powerful that it's able to dictate policy on this on the way it does. is that going to change that michael bloomberg came out and said stop being so terrified of the nra. >> i think nra is just as powerful as they have been. and they have all the time in the world. the news media, we have a short attention span. six months from now, we're not going to be covering this story around the clock. but the nra is going to be working even harder. any debate about gun control will start to get bogged down in details which do you band, do you ban
. >> the nra has made a statement today. the key part saying they're prepared to make meaningful contributions to make sure this doesn't happen again. >> don't hold your breath. >> jeffrey, tell me this annoying -- what did he call me, a bucolic brit. as someone who went through, very similar, the children same age killed. which means we only get 35 gun letters a year. it's the same in australia. many european companies have a similar rate. we just don't get how the nr are a...
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the nra spokespeople have been willing to deal with every possible cause of gun violence except guns. >> in other news the pentagon says joe w. price, leader of s.e.a.l. team 4 was found dead yesterday. the initial conclusion is he committed suicide. the navy is investigating now. >>> hours ago in hawaii senator daniel inouye was laid to rest. he represented hawaii in washington for five decades since hawaii became a state in 1959. the 88-year-old senator was a war hero. he lost his arm. president obama attended the funeral. the president said he was his political inspiration. those are your headlines. i'm don lemon. >>> it was one of the most important diplomatic missions in history. also one of the most clandestine and risky. four decades ago, henry kissinger, then president nixon's national security advise secretly flew to china, beginning a string of meetings that would eventually open that isolated eastern nation to the western world. that opening checked soviet expansionism and in a sense was the beginning of the end of the cold war. >> this was the week that changed the world.
the nra spokespeople have been willing to deal with every possible cause of gun violence except guns. >> in other news the pentagon says joe w. price, leader of s.e.a.l. team 4 was found dead yesterday. the initial conclusion is he committed suicide. the navy is investigating now. >>> hours ago in hawaii senator daniel inouye was laid to rest. he represented hawaii in washington for five decades since hawaii became a state in 1959. the 88-year-old senator was a war hero. he lost...
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bring nra to the table. let's have sensible laudible la. >> they said they want to make meaningful contributions. what does this mean? >> it' >> my position is inherently vilified. i want to explain why those analogies to other countries are what inappropriate. the relationship that they have with their government is fundamentally different. and the second amendment, and you asked why it was invoked, designed to be a protection against tyranny and designed to protect pol pots of the world. we'll never accomplish a ban. we'll never have a uk -- >> let's talk about that. people are talking about a sensible conversation. >> can i pause for one moment? >> this is the kind of thing that we're not allowed to chat about and we should. >> you mentioned the second amendment and everybody refers to it. let's read it first. here is the second amendment, literally what it says, a well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed
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>> the nra also retained asa hutchison the former u.s. attorney, congressman and u.s. security official to develop a model school safety plan focused on issues of design and access control and training for students and educators alike that the group said could be tailored by any school to suit its needs. harris? >> harris: if people were anywhere near their computers or tv's today they saul duling news conferences all over the place with people on different sides of gun control debate appearing. but then they didn't seem to be anywhere near a compromise. >> no, harris. and president obama released a video message today vowing to fight nor new gun laws early next year. the contours of this debate are already taking shape as leading democrats press for a renewed assault weapons ban and for new limits on semiautomatic ammuniti magazines. a leading senate democrat says she favors schools being allowed to have armed guards if they so choose but then she then cited the columbine massacre. >> in fact, there were two armed law enforcement officers who twice engaged the shooter
>> the nra also retained asa hutchison the former u.s. attorney, congressman and u.s. security official to develop a model school safety plan focused on issues of design and access control and training for students and educators alike that the group said could be tailored by any school to suit its needs. harris? >> harris: if people were anywhere near their computers or tv's today they saul duling news conferences all over the place with people on different sides of gun control...
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we will hear from the nra on this today. after keeping distance from the debate, the group will hold a press conference to talk about its take on all of this. the nra is very likely to oppose any kind of ban on guns and even though there may be growing support here in washington, politically for new legislation, it's also important to know that nra membership has reportedly increased significantly since last week's attack. back to you guys. >> steve: all right. thank you very much. we've heard some out of newtown over the last week and a number of funerals again yesterday. this is a t-shirt that caught our attention. read this. it says, dear god, why do you allow so much violence in our schools? signed, concerned student. then down in the smaller print you can see, dear concerned student, i'm not allowed in schools. signed, god. >> brian: yeah. first time i've seen it on a t-shirt. >> alisyn: i don't know. it's hard to -- i think a it's hard to blame it on that because the kids in newtown, that is a religious community. you
we will hear from the nra on this today. after keeping distance from the debate, the group will hold a press conference to talk about its take on all of this. the nra is very likely to oppose any kind of ban on guns and even though there may be growing support here in washington, politically for new legislation, it's also important to know that nra membership has reportedly increased significantly since last week's attack. back to you guys. >> steve: all right. thank you very much. we've...
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i'm not happy with the nra. i am not happy with the nra, and i am a gun owner myself. there's just no reason for automatic weapons out there in the public. and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> i have many guns. but i don't have a third round clip in a semiautomatic weapon. we have a tragedy here, and we have to address it. they're not addressing it. that's what i tell them. you're not addressing the situation here. >> reporter: but in los angeles at a gun range, we got a different take. >> the only way to fight fire is with fire. so if you've got somebody that's armed and you're not, you're part of the problem. you're not part of the solution. >> and so, a range of opinions, everyone has a different view on this, and the debate is on. >> and a lot of people have a different view about whether or not it would work, arming these guards. i mean, is there any proof that arming guards and putting them in schools would actually work? >> reporter: you know, it depends on who you talk with, of course. one thing we can do is look at history. for example, at
i'm not happy with the nra. i am not happy with the nra, and i am a gun owner myself. there's just no reason for automatic weapons out there in the public. and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> i have many guns. but i don't have a third round clip in a semiautomatic weapon. we have a tragedy here, and we have to address it. they're not addressing it. that's what i tell them. you're not addressing the situation here. >> reporter: but in los angeles at a gun range,...
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the nra had been silent after those killings until tonight. now the nra is announcing that they will hold what they are calling a major news conference in washington, d.c. on friday. the nra said in its statement announcing the press conference that they are, quote, shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news from newtown. they say out of respect for the families and as matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer, and a full investigation of the facts before commenting. but then they said this, and i think this is the important part. quote, the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again. the nra is prepared to make meaningful contributions to stopping the next mass shooting in america. the nra? seriously? tell me more. >>> schools in newtown, connecticut, reopened today. diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ phillips' lady ] live the reg
the nra had been silent after those killings until tonight. now the nra is announcing that they will hold what they are calling a major news conference in washington, d.c. on friday. the nra said in its statement announcing the press conference that they are, quote, shocked, saddened and heartbroken by the news from newtown. they say out of respect for the families and as matter of common decency, we have given time for mourning, prayer, and a full investigation of the facts before commenting....
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and the nra, well, the nra turned tragedy into an opportunity of the worst kind. >> nra has blood on its hands. >> the media demonized lawful gun owners. vicious, violent video games. we have blood-soaked films out there, a thousand music videos, the media. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. politicians have no business and no authority denying us the right, the ability, and the moral imperative to protect ourselves and our loved ones from harm. i call on congress today to act immediately to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every single school in this nation. this is the time, this is the day for decisive action. >> this is the beginning of a serious conversation. we won't be taking questions today. >>> the friday before christmas and it is a busy day in washington, d.c. the president just made his announcement that senator john kerry of massachusetts is his choice to succeed hillary clinton as secretary of state. but his business yea day started with a moment of silence to remember the victims at sandy hook eleme
and the nra, well, the nra turned tragedy into an opportunity of the worst kind. >> nra has blood on its hands. >> the media demonized lawful gun owners. vicious, violent video games. we have blood-soaked films out there, a thousand music videos, the media. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. politicians have no business and no authority denying us the right, the ability, and the moral imperative to protect ourselves and our loved ones from harm....
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what do you expect the nra to say today? >> yeah, i don't think we know what they're going to say, and i don't think it's the right thing to kind of just speculate. i think we should talk about what we do know, which is that the overwhelming majority of americans, including the overwhelming majority of gun owners and nra members support sensible restrictions. you know, you just showed a poll that said the number of americans that support strict gun control, that's not the conversation. the conversation is around specific measures like criminal background checks on all gun sales. 74% of nra members support criminal background checks on all gun sales and our message today is really to them, to the nra members, you know, like president obama said, nra members are mothers and fathers, too, and we all grieve over this terrible tragedy and we all grieve over the 32 to 34 murders that happen every single day in our country, and there are things we can do about it and that's what we hope the nra is going to focus on as well, but it'
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the nra will oppose that. they said they favor lots of things to try to get at the violence of schools, more armed guards with guns at schools, a look at the culture of violence, that president obama grease with, better records in the instant check system of those adjudged to be mentally defective, that's the term in the law. they favor all those things except restrictions on gun, the nra does. there will be a big lobbying battle in congress when this begins to move. >> when we look back at 2008 and the court decision at that time regarding washington, d.c.'s gun control law, how might that decision come into play if at all. >> it's going to in some way. in a very narrow sense what the supreme court decision stands for is a very important thing. for the first time in american history the supreme court defined the second amendment. it said it does apply to an individual right to own a gun but it stands only for the constitutional right to possess a handgun in the home for self-defense. it doesn't say anything a
the nra will oppose that. they said they favor lots of things to try to get at the violence of schools, more armed guards with guns at schools, a look at the culture of violence, that president obama grease with, better records in the instant check system of those adjudged to be mentally defective, that's the term in the law. they favor all those things except restrictions on gun, the nra does. there will be a big lobbying battle in congress when this begins to move. >> when we look back...
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>> nra supports what works. we have supported prison building, supported projects where every time you catch a criminal with a gun, a drug dealer with a gun, a violent felon with a gun, you prosecutor them 1 sh00% of the time. if you want to control violent criminals, take them off the streets. we supported instant check systems, getting the records into the instant check system. >> even the instant check system has huge holes just like the mental health registry. >> the biggest single hole right now if you're a felon and you walk into a gun store and you try to buy a gun and they go, oh, you're a felon and we're going to turn you do, they let you walk out and they don't prosecute you. it's like bonnie and clyde. it like clyde goes in and tries to buy a gun. he goes back to bonnie and said i got bad news, they didn't sell me a gun. the good news is they let me go, they didn't do anything to me. they go about and commit their crime. >> is senator feinstein's bill to revive the assault weapon ban going to pass? >>
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various nra news personalities, they sponsor like news shows that's just talk radio that's pro nra. they spouted their beliefs about gun control. but nobody paid attention to that. in terms of an official statement from the group, the nra as an organization did not put out a statement of any kind until four days after the newtown attack. and at first it seemed to follow the nra pattern. they're just going to express their sadness, right? and say this isn't the time that talk about policy. but this statement actually was different. "the nra is prepared to offer meaningful contributions to help make sure this never happens again." the nra's planning to hold a major news conference in the washington, d.c. area on friday, december 21st. a major news conference planned for tomorrow in response to that mass shooting. as far as we can tell, the nra has never reacted to a mass shooting in the way that they are very proudly promoting this news conference for tomorrow. they've certainly never said anything like they said in this statement about being prepared to offer meaningful contributions
various nra news personalities, they sponsor like news shows that's just talk radio that's pro nra. they spouted their beliefs about gun control. but nobody paid attention to that. in terms of an official statement from the group, the nra as an organization did not put out a statement of any kind until four days after the newtown attack. and at first it seemed to follow the nra pattern. they're just going to express their sadness, right? and say this isn't the time that talk about policy. but...
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he also received an "f" rating from the nra. he acknowledged that gun legislation alone would not solve the problem. >> we know this is a complex issue that stirs deeply-held passions and political divides. as i said on sunday night, there's no law or set of laws that can prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. we're going to need to work on making access to mental health care at least as easy as access to a gun. we need to look more closely at a culture that all too often glorifies guns and violence. and any actions we must take must begin inside the home and inside our hearts. but the fact that this problem is complex can no longer be an excuse for doing nothing. >> later in that same press conference, president obama offered a sharp response when he was asked why his administration has mostly stayed away from the subject of gun control until now. >> this is not the first issue -- the first incident of horrific gun violence of your four years. where have you been? >> well, here's where i've been, jake. i've bee
he also received an "f" rating from the nra. he acknowledged that gun legislation alone would not solve the problem. >> we know this is a complex issue that stirs deeply-held passions and political divides. as i said on sunday night, there's no law or set of laws that can prevent every senseless act of violence in our society. we're going to need to work on making access to mental health care at least as easy as access to a gun. we need to look more closely at a culture that all...
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the nra is expected to make a statement on friday. joining us again is lillian bittman former chairman of newtown's board of education. appreciate you being with us. we talked about something having to come out of this. for you, that means some sort of regulation. >> i think the country is actually fed up with where we are now. i think majority of the country up to now, like i was three days ago. you know how heavy it hit everybody how shaken up my friends are in other states of this great nation. i'm getting phone calls from all over the world, you know, people cannot believe what is happening here. and people in like, i was in virginia i went to d.c. to see, our senators on capitol hill. >> you already did that? >> yes, yes i returned this morning. >> do you feel that there is a possibility for change? >> definitely. we met with senior aids to president of the united states. valerie jarr areet and she told this is a personal priority for our president. he is making a personal commitment to advance this cause to make our schools safe
the nra is expected to make a statement on friday. joining us again is lillian bittman former chairman of newtown's board of education. appreciate you being with us. we talked about something having to come out of this. for you, that means some sort of regulation. >> i think the country is actually fed up with where we are now. i think majority of the country up to now, like i was three days ago. you know how heavy it hit everybody how shaken up my friends are in other states of this...
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it's the nra and assault weapons that are killing our children. >> protesters accused the nra of having blood on its hands. i'll be speaking to one of those in a moment. wayne lapierre paused and then continued and blamed the violence on video games, on the media, on just about everything but guns. they said the news media is consumed with hate for the nra, but the proposal to have armed guards in schools in america is stirring the most debate. jeffrey, let me lay my cards on the table off the top here. i watched that press conference or that statement with mounting horror and anger, but i was also aware that a lot of people in america would have watched it and said he's right. >> yeah, people will say that the answer to every escalating sort of violent act in america is the ability to use more violence to counter that. and it never stops. so you're going to give a security guard a regular gun against someone who has an assault weapon. so when the assault weapon overpowers the regular gun, you give the security guard in the school an assault weapon, where does this end? it doesn't end.
it's the nra and assault weapons that are killing our children. >> protesters accused the nra of having blood on its hands. i'll be speaking to one of those in a moment. wayne lapierre paused and then continued and blamed the violence on video games, on the media, on just about everything but guns. they said the news media is consumed with hate for the nra, but the proposal to have armed guards in schools in america is stirring the most debate. jeffrey, let me lay my cards on the table...
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i expected the nra to embrace universe at background checks. i thought nra might get out in front of the ban on military assault rifles. i don't think that message played so well which is what david is saying in middle america. >> the problem not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation as we should be. not guns. they don't massacre a bunch of people. >> what i i'm trying to say is the mentally ill have free access to our weapon. "the new york times" had a front page story about the swiss cheese nature of the fbi's record-keeping pertaining to those who have a mental illness or -- >> listen, michael. >> real quick. >> this is what wayne lapierre said. he talked about mental illness. they're opposed to background checks on people who go to gun shows, who sell guns to each other privately, not through gun stores. so it doesn't matter. >> i was shocked by that. i wish we had more time. thank you, david corn. thank you steven siebold. >>> up next, the most challenged quotes of the year. stick around with me for side show and if y
i expected the nra to embrace universe at background checks. i thought nra might get out in front of the ban on military assault rifles. i don't think that message played so well which is what david is saying in middle america. >> the problem not the nra. the problem is we're having the wrong conversation as we should be. not guns. they don't massacre a bunch of people. >> what i i'm trying to say is the mentally ill have free access to our weapon. "the new york times" had...
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nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the congress but state legislators are mortified for these guys and for good reason. they send out a lot of mail and people follow them. i think the vice president was instrumental in passing the assault weapon ban before. he knows this. he is a good man to head up this task force but he will be in for a heck of a fight them play pretty tough. it is not an easy thing to get done here. >> what should the nra say? he is coming out and talking tomorrow. is it safe to assume he will say look, we do support some kind of change. som
nra positions. in 2009, the nra pushed through laws relaxing the ability to carry guns on amtrak. i will admit i don't understand the need for that at all and new laws relaxing gun bans in national parks. what can we expect the nra to go along with? >> in louisiana they pushed a law to allow people to carry guns in churches. the bishop put the stop to that. look, they're very powerful group. no question about it. and they put a lot of stuff through and a lot of people not just the...
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the nra embarrassed itself. as michael said they had an opportunity today to change the national image of the nra. if they said, look, no american gun owner, no hunter needs a high capacity magazine with more than ten bullets and a clip, we're for that ban. our members, frank luntz, fox news frank luntz poll 47% of our members said no one should get a gun without a background check. we're endorsing a federal ban on gun shows selling guns without background checks. federal ban on internet sales. they could have taken a real step towards enhancing their credibility. they embarrassed himself. learning apierr emp pm-- lapier resign. the republicans have a choice. break with the nra or have every suburban american that looks like this and says this guy is nuts. if you look at this statement you have to think this guy is whacked. that's a danger for the republicans to align themselves with. >> i know you don't mean this in a flip callous way but your reaction is similar to other people who are not anti-gun, they are a
the nra embarrassed itself. as michael said they had an opportunity today to change the national image of the nra. if they said, look, no american gun owner, no hunter needs a high capacity magazine with more than ten bullets and a clip, we're for that ban. our members, frank luntz, fox news frank luntz poll 47% of our members said no one should get a gun without a background check. we're endorsing a federal ban on gun shows selling guns without background checks. federal ban on internet sales....
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we will hear from the nra on this issue tomorrow. press conference is planned. what do you make of this? charles: people who own guns have a legitimate concern that ultimately the tragedy will be used to not just go after assault rifles and enhancements but to go after their guns. three hundred million guns were not used in that massacre, people are legitimately afraid they're going to lose those rights. liz: i am horrified by the trend. it is appalling. we have too many guns in this country. we have to get rid of the loophole that allows people to buy essentially assault weapons from -- without a background check. i don't think those should be on the street at all. we need save the commission that regulates toy guns and the national highway traffic commission and the safety administration monitoring cars and protecting people from cars. we need more government protection from too many guns. stuart: there must be millions of assault weapons out there in america today. if you ben them are you banning future sales or are you saying the government should go out and
we will hear from the nra on this issue tomorrow. press conference is planned. what do you make of this? charles: people who own guns have a legitimate concern that ultimately the tragedy will be used to not just go after assault rifles and enhancements but to go after their guns. three hundred million guns were not used in that massacre, people are legitimately afraid they're going to lose those rights. liz: i am horrified by the trend. it is appalling. we have too many guns in this country....
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but the leading gun rights group, the nra has been largely silent until today. they came out swinging today against the media in a press conference which was occasionally interrupted by protesters. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delays meaningful action and all but guarantee but the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> laura: with us now to respond josh horowitz, he is the executive director of the coalition to stop gun violence. josh, good to see you, what's your reaction to what wayne lapierre said today. >> first i think it's great we are having this discussion. it's a discussion that's long overdo and really too bad it takes this type of tragedy to get this type of attention to the issu
but the leading gun rights group, the nra has been largely silent until today. they came out swinging today against the media in a press conference which was occasionally interrupted by protesters. >> rather than face their own moral failings, the media demonized lawful gun owners, amplify their cries for more laws and fill the national media with misinformation and dishonest thinking. that only delays meaningful action and all but guarantee but the next atrocity is only a news cycle...
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let's look just briefly on what is on the nra's basic score card agenda. this is how they assess members, oppose closing the so-called terror gap. they oppose closing the gun show loophole. they support an amendment that makes it harder to trace guns specifically used in crimes that would be not law-abiding gun use. they would support amendments to carry guns on amtrak, national parks and bars and what i would call the notorious stand your ground legislation. do you think that agenda, if it has more exposure in this debate, i mean if the president read off those things in the state of the union, do you think that would drive a wedge between the average gun owner and the nra's national agenda? >> it would start a debate. look, it's not the job of reporters to carry one side of an argument. if the nra is making an argument and no one is making one against them, it has a consequence for the debate. what the gun control side has lacked for a long time is a powerful grassroots group that actually has the muscle and the money to force the conversation, to force
let's look just briefly on what is on the nra's basic score card agenda. this is how they assess members, oppose closing the so-called terror gap. they oppose closing the gun show loophole. they support an amendment that makes it harder to trace guns specifically used in crimes that would be not law-abiding gun use. they would support amendments to carry guns on amtrak, national parks and bars and what i would call the notorious stand your ground legislation. do you think that agenda, if it has...
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saying that nra kills kids. here we go, let's see what he says. >> resident face their own moral failings. they filled the national media with this information and dishonest thinking. it only delays meaningful action and all but guaranteed the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semi automatic firearms machine guns. they claim that these civilian firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the two to three is one of the most powerful rival calibers, when all of these claims are factually untrue, they do not know what they are talking about. they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban or one more law post on lawful people will protect us. many other laws have failed. as well-trained as those police work, when they responded, they were unable, through no fault of their own, unable to stop it. as parents, we do everything we can to keep our children safe. it is now time for us to assume responsibility for our schools. the only way, the only way to stop a monster from kil
saying that nra kills kids. here we go, let's see what he says. >> resident face their own moral failings. they filled the national media with this information and dishonest thinking. it only delays meaningful action and all but guaranteed the next atrocity is only a news cycle away. the media calls semi automatic firearms machine guns. they claim that these civilian firearms are used by the military. they tell us that the two to three is one of the most powerful rival calibers, when all...
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the nra plan coming on the heels of the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. the deadliest mass shooting in a grade school in american history where the gunman armed with semi-automatic rifles made his way into the school with handguns as well. he killed 20 children and six adults before turning the gun on himself. peter doocy is live in washington with the latest on the question of guns and guards in is schools. >> the consultant leading the nra's effort to secure the schools is asa hutchinson, a former republican congressman from arkansas who said he didn't think new laws and prohibition is the right way to respond to what happened in sandy hook and compared the nra plan to put a trained guard in every american school to the federal air marshal program put in place after 9/11. >> more sensitive that be airplanes. people resisted having weapons on airplanes but i oversaw the federal air marshals and it's a deterrent, no one sees that weapon but they're protected on the airplane and it's a positive impact on safety. schools are a sensitive environment as well.
the nra plan coming on the heels of the tragedy in newtown, connecticut. the deadliest mass shooting in a grade school in american history where the gunman armed with semi-automatic rifles made his way into the school with handguns as well. he killed 20 children and six adults before turning the gun on himself. peter doocy is live in washington with the latest on the question of guns and guards in is schools. >> the consultant leading the nra's effort to secure the schools is asa...
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this is nra members. 57% of the nra members believe that everyone who wants to buy a gun should have to pass a criminal background check. 71% of nra members support banning people on the terrorist watch list from purchasing guns. those are not things that are true of american law right, which is amazing. if you are on the freaking terrorist watch list, you can buy a gun in america. if we're going to get past this almost hysterical fear of trying to do anything at all on gun rights, if we're going to try to puncture the myth that anything to reform or rationalize gun laws is absolutely politically impossible as a categorical thing, what would happen if we just started at the edges? what would happen if we just started even members of the nra say they want from national gun laws? because they want a hell of a lot more than we've got right now. the organization they are a member of may not admit that, but when you poll their members, even they want improvements. could we at least start with what nra members want? joining us now is congresswoman carolyn mccarthy. she is a democrat of new
this is nra members. 57% of the nra members believe that everyone who wants to buy a gun should have to pass a criminal background check. 71% of nra members support banning people on the terrorist watch list from purchasing guns. those are not things that are true of american law right, which is amazing. if you are on the freaking terrorist watch list, you can buy a gun in america. if we're going to get past this almost hysterical fear of trying to do anything at all on gun rights, if we're...
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the nra breaks its silence. president obama and communities all over america paused in a moment of silence. president obama is calling for a ban on assault weapons. today, the nra offered a rather different solution. publicly breaking the silence. the silence for the first time since the massacre, the nra proposed a sweeping plan to have armed guards at every school in the nation. >> the truth is our society is populated by an unknown number of genuine monsters. people that are so deranged, so evil, so possessed by voices and driven by demons that no sane person can ever possibly comprehend them. they walk among us every single day. and does anybody really believe that the next adam lanza isn't planning his attack on a school? since when did a gun automatically become a bad word? a gun in the hands of a secret service agent protecting our president isn't a bad word. a gun in the hands of a soldier protecting the united states of america isn't a bad word. and when you hear your glass breaking at 3:00 a.m. and you
the nra breaks its silence. president obama and communities all over america paused in a moment of silence. president obama is calling for a ban on assault weapons. today, the nra offered a rather different solution. publicly breaking the silence. the silence for the first time since the massacre, the nra proposed a sweeping plan to have armed guards at every school in the nation. >> the truth is our society is populated by an unknown number of genuine monsters. people that are so...
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this is what the nra wants to do. given the history of there being armed -- all kinds of armed guards at schools where there were shootings, do you think it will really work? >> well, you know, when we call 911, we don't want to disarm security guard showing up to help us. now, there are many different things we can do. that perhaps is appropriate in some situations. i believe new york city schools, many of them, have security officers that are armed. that's not the whole picture. if we focus just on the firearm, we miss the opportunity to address the larger problems here with our mental health system, which is in shambles in this country, and what is really comes down to is money, why are we going to put our priorities, in the mill ear, overseas, or right here with our own people in america? >> thank you very much for joining us. i appreciate it. especially on this holiday. >> thank you. >> other headlines to tell you about. >>> we expect to fin out the official results of egypt's constitutional referendum vote. unof
this is what the nra wants to do. given the history of there being armed -- all kinds of armed guards at schools where there were shootings, do you think it will really work? >> well, you know, when we call 911, we don't want to disarm security guard showing up to help us. now, there are many different things we can do. that perhaps is appropriate in some situations. i believe new york city schools, many of them, have security officers that are armed. that's not the whole picture. if we...
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melissa: the nra is speaking out today. violent video games and movies share blame for such a tragedy and calling for armed police and such schools. >> they are already in some schools and school systems. we decided to figure out what would this cost. fox business has determined if he were to put an armed police officer in every private or public school, it would be roughly $5 billion to taxpayers assuming the security guard is making an average of $34,000. wayne from it nra had the press conference where he called uuon all kinds of issues, but made it very clear and simple. >> the only way to stop a monster from killing our kids is to be personally involved and invested in a plan of absolute protection. the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. >> he also went on to talk about the need for hollywood to accept some responsibility. he actually recalled a game called "kindergarten killers." everyone knows "grand theft auto" and "mortal kombat." there is a big discussion that has to be going on.
melissa: the nra is speaking out today. violent video games and movies share blame for such a tragedy and calling for armed police and such schools. >> they are already in some schools and school systems. we decided to figure out what would this cost. fox business has determined if he were to put an armed police officer in every private or public school, it would be roughly $5 billion to taxpayers assuming the security guard is making an average of $34,000. wayne from it nra had the press...
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i'm not happy with the nra, i'm not happy with the nra and i'm a gun owner myself. there's just no reason for automatic weapons out in the public and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> i have many guns, but i do not have a 30 round clip and a semiautomatic weapon. we have a tragedy here and we have to address it. they are not addressing it. that is what i tell them. you are not addressing the situation here. >>. >> reporter: at a shooting range in california, others supported the nra. >> the only way to fight fire is with fire. so, if you have somebody that is armed and you are not, you are part of the problem, you are not part of the solution. >> i think it's a good idea. but you are going to have to train these people on how to use weapons. because once you start shooting inside of a classroom, someone will get hurt. the thing is not to let the intruder go into the classroom. >> reporter: how many armed guards to you need? every room, every door? the nra did not take questions after making the statement. don? >> thank you very much. lots more to
i'm not happy with the nra, i'm not happy with the nra and i'm a gun owner myself. there's just no reason for automatic weapons out in the public and clips that discharge so many rounds of ammunition. >> i have many guns, but i do not have a 30 round clip and a semiautomatic weapon. we have a tragedy here and we have to address it. they are not addressing it. that is what i tell them. you are not addressing the situation here. >>. >> reporter: at a shooting range in...
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the nra became the nra as we know it today by being very savvy about its politics. and the simple truth is, even if there is a national movement right now in favor of doing something, everyone in washington knows that there is a long time between now and when such a law that actually will be considered. and during that time, a lot of the public sentiment can die down and more importantly the nra can work not just the national level, but the tremendous influence at the state and local level. all these congress members, all these senators, they do not run as national politicians. they run in a state or in a district. and what matters to them is how the people feel in their state or district. and what is driving these polls up right now, in large part, is a really tremendous outpouring of sentiment from, yes, some moderates in the middle, but also tremendously by people who already live in largely democratic areas, places that already favor more gun control. that probably makes very little difference to a lawmaker who comes from a state that does not feel that way, bro
the nra became the nra as we know it today by being very savvy about its politics. and the simple truth is, even if there is a national movement right now in favor of doing something, everyone in washington knows that there is a long time between now and when such a law that actually will be considered. and during that time, a lot of the public sentiment can die down and more importantly the nra can work not just the national level, but the tremendous influence at the state and local level. all...
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the nra is killing our children. we've got to stop the violence. violence begins with the nra. stating the true facts. they are the perpetrators of the crimes taking place in our schools and on our streets. >> the truth is, that our society is populated by an unknown number of genuine monste monsters -- people that are so deranged, so evil, so possessed by voices and driven by demons that no sane person can ever possibly comprehend them. they walk among us every single day. and does anybody really believe that the next adam lanza isn't planning his attack on a school he's already identified at this very moment? how many more copy cats are waiting in the wings for their moment of fame? from a national media machine that rewards them with wall-to-wall attention and a sense of identity that they crave. while provoking others to try to make their mark. a dozen more killers, a hundred more? how can we possibly even guess how many given our nation's refusal to create an active national data base of the mentally ill? the fact is this. that wouldn't even begin to address the much large
the nra is killing our children. we've got to stop the violence. violence begins with the nra. stating the true facts. they are the perpetrators of the crimes taking place in our schools and on our streets. >> the truth is, that our society is populated by an unknown number of genuine monste monsters -- people that are so deranged, so evil, so possessed by voices and driven by demons that no sane person can ever possibly comprehend them. they walk among us every single day. and does...
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. >> what about the nra? >> well, the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers. i would expect that they've been impacted by this as well. hopefully they'll do some self-reflection. here's what we know. any single gun law can't solve all these problems. we're going to have to look at mental health issues, we're going to have to look at schools. there are going to be a whole range of things that joe's group looks at. we know that issues of gun safety will be an element. and, you know, what we've seen over the last 20 years, 15 years is this sense that anything related to guns is somehow an encroachment on the second amendment. what we're looking for here is a thoughtful approach that says we can preserve our second amendment, we can make sure that responsible gun owners are able to carry out their activities, but that we're going to actually be serious about the safety side of this. that we're going to be serious about making sure that something like newtown or aurora doesn't happen
. >> what about the nra? >> well, the nra is an organization that has members who are mothers and fathers. i would expect that they've been impacted by this as well. hopefully they'll do some self-reflection. here's what we know. any single gun law can't solve all these problems. we're going to have to look at mental health issues, we're going to have to look at schools. there are going to be a whole range of things that joe's group looks at. we know that issues of gun safety will...